Share your thoughts on the best AKs and building your own in the comment section. We want you, our readers, to be able to make informed decisions. I was always one the saiga-12.com forum for years before coming here all the time. level 2 However, it takes time for the bureaucracy to figure out the details. Once all the VEPRs walk out of local gun shops as well, then it hits and it hits hard. Many presidents have done such things over the years, not only this one. We need to man up a bit and realize that sometime we have to bite the bullet, (pun intended) and do what’s right. My first reaction was to pony up and pay the extra; after all would prices go down any time soon or ever? I am only worried about the cheap (and good) Tula ammo. A good US made alternative for more accuracy is the Sig Sauer 556R. Bought my Saiga in 2010 after the first ban was lifted. sanctions related to Crimea will not be lifted until Russia ends its occupation of the peninsula.” The department has accused Molot of acting as a front for the Kalashnikov Concern. Yes, the voting population is so frikken enammered with his coolness, they’re not seeing his hands around their own necks. ProMag SAIGA .410 Bore Drum Magazine 30 Rounds 3" Shells Polymer Black SAI-A9 ProMag SAIGA .410 Bore Drum Magazine 30 Rounds 3" ... Our Low Price $139.97 QuickView So often we dont remember past history, the saying “History repeats itself” is relevant for today . Regardless of what brand can be used, and accuracy etc.. People are overlooking the fact the Obama admin is doing their best to dismantle the 2nd amendment. neonardo1. Saiga-12 magazines - click here! Remember that this Executive Order only covers Russian manufactured AK’s. There would be plenty of sanctions remaining if that one happened to be recalled. Russia could get around the ban by sending parts to a 3rd country that both Russia and the US trade with. All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval. It’s too good an opportunity to let go. It’s really clearly about reducing any type of Russian exports we can think of. Best money I ever spent. Vepr-12 8-round Original Russian Magazine (MOLOT) Awesome. I'm thinking Trump is not a fan of these "assault rifles" at all. Russia isn’t the only country importing AK-47s into this country. His anti American, anti freedom is on a level this country’s never seen. An example would be in WW2 before Pearl Harbor, America was trying to stay out of the war. Also, there are domestic makers of AK-47s that might help fill the void. It seems like all the inexpensive stuff is made in Russia. I think the buyer just heard the cash register go "ka-ching" M. mahatesguns. Just the fact that the words “ban” and “AK47” are in the same sentence will cause price hikes whether they are Russian or not, ammo included. He has heard of the AK., Sooooooo he figures this is a good opportunity to ban them because they are ‘assault rifles.’ This ban only applies to the Russian versions made after the EO went into effect. 's blog. We reserve the right to edit as appropriate, delete profane, harassing, abusive and spam comments or posts, and block repeat offenders. Trump can't do it alone. The importers and retailers will use this scare to hit us at the wallet every time. And, he’s also a raging undeniable anti-white racist. No import ban on firearms has ever been lifted and the reason for that is because a president would lose way more than they would ever gain doing such a thing. However, they cannot have a bayonet mount. Well I bet he doesn’t ban Kaspersky soft ware –developed in russia,what a jack wagon !!!!!!! The Shooter's Log, is to provide information—not opinions—to our customers and the shooting community. An “Open” Division Saiga 12 in action First, the executive order was signed months ago not last week. The EO that was passed is a “Beta Test” in seeing what the reaction of the public will be. Why not these guys? Why were Norincos banned? I saw one at a gun range a few months ago, and it looked pretty cool. Then I talked with Texas Law Shield and while the legal minds would not prognosticate about market forces and price, they did shed some light that changed my mind. If you want one, get it now. JavaScript is disabled. Believe me, this is just the beginning. The Saiga/sgl rifle more than likey won't ever be back. Although the AK is a nice, simple to operate and practical weapon the fact is it isn’t very accurate even at intermediate ranges. I even ran one over with a quad on accident. The sanctions are not approved against Ukrainian companies, and are likely not to have any placed on them as government has a long history of supporting a side by “purchasing” goods then “selling” other goods to them. Buy American. Inventory will be added regularly. I know it’s popular to jump on O’bama every chance there is, but he was right in doing what he did. Almost all except N-PAP’s have a 50% thicker receiver and use the thicker milled style barrels. The import ban now leaves the market to American-made AK-type rifles, such as those manufactured by Century Arms and Palmetto State Armory, Romanian WASR-10s and sturdy Serbian NPAPs, among others. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Asked how you could ever not like him, Like you’re crazy. They have been for a long time now, but recently it is getting much worse. Mass shootings in Newtown, Aurora, and Tucson have demonstrated all too clearly the need to regulate military-style assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines. I repeat, take a vacation from the Russian AK, there’s many others. Might cost a bit more than a Russian import, but I guarantee it will be a better firearm than the best Russian import. Now you can only get Romanian. I just build my own from parts kits, the most fun headache I’ve ever had. Wouldn’t the Russian guns under a new name be just good? Well of course but trump supporters think he his. Why pay $1,000 for a Saiga that sold for $700-750 a couple of weeks ago? I think the $600 rang is still fair for a saiga rifle being that like the polytech they will never lift the ban. This is a way to keep your hands clean being able to say you not supporting a side. More bans are coming, so you should buy what you can, when you can, as many as you can. He is the top builder in the US and is a great instructor. I’m not looking foreword to seeing him on tv and in the news daily for the next 30 years. A forum community dedicated to survivalists and enthusiasts. As I said above, they will use the situation to get that extra profit…. Tags: Banned, FIME, fime group, molot, russia, Saiga, Sanction, shotgun, ukraine, vepr The US Department Of Treasury released an update to the sanction list in connection to the Russian – Ukranian conflict today and it appears that as a result of the change to sanctions the US has banned VEPR rifles and shotguns from further import. The Mission of Cheaper Than Dirt! Jun 24, 2020 #2 I think Bulgaria makes the best AK-47/74s (yes, better than the Russian ones). The ban must have been lifted because other variants of the AK shotguns seem to be coming into the country once again or are being produced here. To put it plainly, there will be no more imports of popular Saiga rifles, shotguns, and other sporting arms for the foreseeable future. Chinese AK are banned in NJ. No. It could be assembled by this country and shipped to America as made in xxx country. The original Saiga shotguns were of course semi-auto based on the AK action. Supply and demand ruled, and the seller had a sudden change of heart—about a 25% change of heart. Although not on point of this article, there’s not much I cannot do with my bulgarian SLR-101s in 7.62×39 that I CAN do with my bush ar-15 in .223 at 100 or 200 yards. Notify me of follow-up comments by email.  −  Currently, the complete line of Saiga hunting and target rifles and shotguns are imported by the Russian-American Armory Company and is distributed through a network of dealers. All Saiga and Molot Vepr Russian guns have now been banned from further importation by executive order. Concern Kalashnikov’s U.S. importer is RWC Group. Obama can’t leave a ban in place with an EO. At the same time we could address some amendments that would prevent ridiculous future executive orders such as this. it’s actually called Kick the Same Can Down the Road, Since 1988! People will be attacked for bashing him. Come join the discussion about collections, gear, DIY projects, hobbies, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! During this period new models were imported and these included the Saiga-308 and Saiga-556, chambered for the U.S. .308 caliber round and the .223 respectively. If you’re white and love & believe in something, he’s sure to be against it. To the point, however, I truly hope this country survives this rabid anti-American ideologue. (compatible with Saiga-12 & 20) Join Saiga-12 FORUM! Here’s How (cheaply). Price $99.95. Therefore, it looks as if other companies could still manufacture and export AK-47s to the U.S.! These are often converted once in the US to include pistol grips, better triggers, and the like. Week-In-Review News Roundup: March 7-13, 2021, BREAKING: House Passes Background Check Bills for Firearms, Beretta: A History of the World’s Oldest Firearm Company, Best Defensive Ammunition Options for Rifles, Beretta: A History of the World's Oldest Firearm Company, Have Gun, Will Travel: Transporting Your Handgun Across the United States. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. You just have to know where to look. Agreed. The whole thing is totally archaic and needs to be gutted to the extent that doing away with it would simply be easier. Show the Chinese we really mean business! Companies such as Rifle Dynamics will soon have an all American AK. The Saiga bolt hold open is engaged by manually pressing a lever near the trigger guard and pulling the charging handle rearward although this feature does not automatically hold the rifle's action open after the last round is fired as seen on the AR-15. If you’re thinking of building one before you do take a class from Jim Fuller. This is a (very small) part of the Crimea backlash sanctions; any way they can think to take a few bucks out of Putin’s hands without hurting the US they’ll probably try. Talk shows, celebrity events, speeches and the like. Whatever Saigas are here / almost here in the U.S. are going to be the last Saigas coming into the U.S. If you really want a Saiga rifle or a shotgun, then I would get one now. Thanks for all of your helpfull information! They would take a severe beating by the bought and paid for fake media and they would also take a beating in CONgress. Then maybe I should sell some of my goodies while the prices are high.....$$$$$$, Peace is that glorious moment in time when everyone stands around reloading. The Newer SAM5 rifles come in at 1300$ and those are said to be almost as nice as the older SLR and US made SAM rifles, but made in Bulgaria and cost a little less for a nice one. Shopping with us is absolutely safe - you never have to worry about credit card safety when shopping here... Share your latest AR build or photos from the range with #RangeDayFriday for a chance to win a new firearm! The information provided here does not represent the views of Cheaper Than Dirt! The first thing that Communist dictators do when they come into power is to take the peoples guns away, so you can not oppose a tryranical goverment. This isn’t an AK, but it uses AK ammunition, magazines and the 7.62×39 cartridge can really shine and show its value, capabilities and accuracy and intermediate ranges with this weapon. Some bills simply ban certain types of firearms or ammunition outright. Got converted ones and some in their original stock. Things are getting rediculous. Russia’s oil is to valuable to them. When the Chinese guns were ban from import no one has lifted the ban. After a quick conversation, we need to make a couple of corrections and share some good news from the law guys. The feds have also given financial aid to a side then sold arms to them to get around the supporting a side. Looking for a ‘Banned’ Russian AK-47, Saiga? List Price: $104.95. The new ban will include Izhmash rifles—rimfire and centerfire bolt-action rifles—and semi-automatic Saiga rifles and shotguns based on the Kalashnikov action. Say hello to $22 for a box of 20 of 7.62×39 that’s made anywhere. Hopefully, we’ll see them in the Southern part of the US! and these AK’s are very good…. I believe if you want a Russian shotgun, buy it now, because they will be as hard to find and as expensive as Norinco AK47’s have been since Clinton banned them. And that’s if even THEY give a sh*t about it. To produce these shotguns in other countries will require expensive retooling for barrels and bolts etc. There are other options. If you want a Russian gun, get it now as prices will rise and the guns will dry up. He placed a restriction on people and organizations that aid the Russian government. They are as tough as nails. Why dont we just trash the whole worthless NFA and be done with it? In reading the order, specific companies and people were named, not the products. I don't think that will happen. In the mean time, I will build myself another quality AR, before the liberal traitors amongst us figure out how to ban those as well. Home » Firearms » Looking for a ‘Banned’ Russian AK-47, Saiga? Lucky we can still get Russian veprs. .hide-if-no-js { Say Turkey for instance. We now also carry 10-round Saiga .410 magazines! My bet is, Obama lifts sanctions but signs a bill or signs somthing that leaves the AK and anmo ban (if banned too) in place. http://www.ioinc.us/new-m214.html. This “Ban” will not effect AK47’s as much as Saiga and Vepr shotguns. However, it takes time for the bureaucracy to figure out the details. I prefer to buy American made anyway. Why the ones I have are worth three times the original cost. Assault Weapons Ban of 2013. You will not be disappointed. 1 However it is true that the majority of AK’s available in NJ are going to be poorly made Romanian WASR-10’s. There are still plenty of options out there for the AK fans in 1940’s Germany, wait, I mean NJ. Staff member. There are plenty of highly rated Polish (Random) AK’s and Yugo (Zavasta) NPAP-AK’s on the market…. Yes President Obama ordered the ban lifted after Putin decided to return control of Crimea to Ukraine and apologized for being an asshole. Please be respectful of others. No. We could then legally say we weren’t directly supplying the British with weapons. If that were the case, how hard would it be for Kalashnikov Concern to open a new company or move manufacturing to a neighboring country and be right back in business? Withal, Edwin Walker from Texas Law Shield wasn’t finished. If ak ammo is blocked from importation, it’ll be a shooter’s disaster 90% of ak ammo is Russian. Kalashnikov USA, an American rifle and shotgun manufacturer, severed ties with Kalashnikov Concern in 2014. One hour before the ban, they were going for 999.99 and look where we are 28 hours after the ban. The new "assault weapon ban" bill has been in congress for awhile, and so far to my knowledge hasn't progressed to pass. I have been building AK-47’s for a few years now and the Yugo’s are the best. The reason the current ban is legitimate is because it’s a directive added on to a congressional approved sanction. This is all part of the sanctions over the Ukraine business. I will wait. How about we lift the ban on Chinese weapons instead? Once the details were released (last week), the sanctions kicked in banning the Russian arms. nine Crazy to see the stock gun price go from 650 to 900 after the ban was lift for sale by Iyaayas13 on GunsAmerica - 921918643 The ban on Chinese AKs and what not, instituted by Clinton, is still I effect and will likely never get lifted. They would take a severe beating by the bought and paid for fake media and they would also take a beating in CONgress. I’m sure he’s not crying over the fact that these gun manufacturers are affected, but I also believe that was not his agenda here. I find, as stated earlier, the Yugo is a great manufacturer and there is plenty of ammo from other countries to be had, price? SKU VOM-12-08. Virtually every major online gun store is sold at this point! D-Technik. Fortunately, there are a few facts in which gun enthusiasts may find some solace. The ban is effective today until otherwise lifted by Executive Order (or Congressional Action to that effect.) All gun control bills share the same basic goal: a world in which fewer people own firearms. A lot of ak ammo is also imported from the Ukraine but that’s likely to come to a halt by nature of the Ukrainians needing it for their current conflict. I have been in the market for an AK and was set to pull the trigger on an upcoming sale when the news hit. It’s so brazen, it’s not believed.  =  or there is always the lesser quality WASR from Romania, although I hear that they have greatly improved over the last 5 years….. Is there any update on whether AK-47 AMMO will be affected? Diane Feinstien requested that shipments reach US shores in time for Christmas. Not to upend your tinfoil hattery, but this was fairly obviously not about restricting gun imports. The following is a quote from past history. ... they ban importation of AK's a week after I sold my Arsenal SLR95. Saiga Dark Earth dress kit! Building your own AR is extremely popular and there are plenty of parts and guides to ensure you do not run afoul of the 922(r) compliance laws, so what have your experiences been with building your own AK? 1300 Van Buren Ave #111, Oxford MS 38655 Phone: 662-232-8011 Fax: 877-553-2608 Email: [email protected] Specializing in Saiga shotguns, Saiga rifles, AK47s, AR15s, and Sig Sauer Firearms, we also we stock the full Tromix, TAPCO, Surefire Gun Mags, and Russian American Armory Product lines. display: none !important; First, the law only applies to Russian made AKs. Look at what he's done for it so far... Yeah, but the small arms ban was just something Obama tacked on for funsies. I was wondering if anyone knew of any aftermarket options for the Saiga series of shotguns since the gun ban has been lifted? First, the executive order was signed months ago not last week. That was all more of obozo’s bullshyt anyway…he was just trying to irritate putin!! Once the sanctions are dropped by congress, the EO has absolutely no power, again because it is an addition to a congressional approved sanction. So potential buyers needn’t panic-buy. Even more reason to worry about 7.63×39 shortages from ban scares. Besides, who says this ban won’t be overturned anyway! I’d like some Norinco stuff! KPM Automatic ban on the Saiga 12K. Yeah the older Sam rifles ,like the SAM5s in 5.56, command a lot more then most. A ban that still exists to this day. He didn’t sign a bill banning any gun. I have built two so far. You can go on YouTube and see builders such as Ginsboy2003, ThedarkKnightbuilds, or even me Mel64d and see what it takes to build your very own AK. Saiga horn's value is equal to rhinoceros horn, whose trade was banned in 1993. So much so, it’s not even noticed by the masses. “Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or SA, ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the State” Heinrich Himmler: Reichsfuher – SS”. So, no big deal. It’s no secret that some ARs command a premium price due to quality and many AK enthusiasts would say the same about Russian guns, but what about the same heart and soul (machines and gunsmiths) being relocated? Go with any Yugo with the bulged trunnion (M70, M72, or O-PAP). Romanian, Bulgarian, Chinese, Egyptian AK’s are not banned. What about Romaniam, Yugoslavia, and other formerly com-bloc countries? Senior Admin. Several companies are already producing domestic manufactured parts, such as barrels, bolts & carriers. No cheap builds or like an m&p sport that is $500. Maybe the cost is too high. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Just like this ban. Though a cursory check of a few sites I buy from shows them pretty cleaned out. You can still get SKS. ! He’s deep into his goal of ruining a great republic, something he’s always viewed as a horrible mistake that needs fixing. In January I was going to buy a Saiga ak47, but decided to get a Shield instead and pocket the extra $$. And I'm looking for an AR in the same value as my rifle. Like the AR platform, AKs already have multiple manufacturers so getting replacement parts may not be as big an issue as many previously believed. Your discussions, feedback and comments are welcome here as long as they are relevant and insightful. I guess we’re all on the edge of law abiding citizen and outlaw. A quick reminder, Saigas are essentially built on AK platforms, but made to conform to all "assault weapons ban" forms such as no pistol grip, low capacity magazine, no bayonet lug. The President doesn't want to add fuel to the communist media who will look at a reversal as some type of reward for Putin. Same accuracy and same fun. Hot Take: Trump doesn't actually care about the 2nd Amendment. Really. We bought goods from the British, and in return we sold them arms. Good try Barry but virtually no effect on the AK market. Required fields are marked *, Time limit exceeded. Saiga-12 25 Round Drum - Made In The USA (Tested in Saiga Shotguns Only) Use Only 2 3/4“ Shells Over 1325 fps or Faster Winchester Super X for best performance. Not trying to give legal advice in any way. Our great nation is mostly asleep as this fugazy president transforms it in plain sight into his vision, which is the opposite of what it’s intended to be, a free republic. I will wait for American companies to fill the void with American assembled AK’s. “U.S. I would also like to know if anyone has a Saiga shotgun, how it feeds, reliability, and accuracy. BTW, I have a Romanian AK-47 that I’m quite pleased with. I think folks are in large part just paying for the idea of it being Russian. This is unlike what Russians are doing to support separatists, Russia literally gives them the weapons, and trains them to use them, when training is needed. Now you have someone else to lambaste, me. Fits: Saiga-12, Lynx-12, DDI-12, Cheetah-12 . Why should we lift your ban? Once the details were released (last week), the sanctions kicked in banning the Russian arms. To me this is the most important thing to recognize. They came with 5-round magazines, but larger capacity mags were introduced later. No import ban on firearms has ever been lifted and the reason for that is because a president would lose way more than they would ever gain doing such a thing. My guess is because Russia hasn't pulled out of territories they stole. If it is totally lifted, it won’t be the Obama administration but rather the next republican administration. Sure they have the same round, however they look scary to NJ politicians who don’t understand the difference. K-VAR has been the largest online supplier of rifles, handguns, shotguns, and gun parts in the USA since 1993. That just so happened to include a couple Russian gun manufacturers, along with many other services and products. Too bad Europe doesn’t have the stones to deal with the problem that is in their own backyard. I remember $299 for my first saiga 12 and when there were no parts avaliable like know it was like the parts kit game was here 8 years ago. Russia is out of control. Saiga horn, known as Cornu Antelopis, is one of the main ingredients in traditional Chinese medicine that is used as an extract or powder additive to the elixirs, ointments, and drinks. Time limit exceeded. After his presidency ends, I promise you, he’s gonna be so visible, active & voiced with an even bigger cult following.
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